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		By: youkali		</title>
		<link>https://www.keyframe5.com/another-visit-from-national-home-services/#comment-11001</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 07:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When a National Home Services representative rang at my door, I first thought it was a good idea to replace my water heater with a brand new one. After all, it was old, a rental anyway, and, last year, when it broke, DirectEnergy had replaced the old one with an used one. So I signed an agreement, and the salesman made me take an appointment for two days after. The following day, I started having doubts about the sales practice of the company. The representative was fine, but pushy, and he hadn&#039;t exactly told me about all the terms of what I was signing up for. I questioned the fact that they were in such a hurry to install the water heater when I had 10 days to cancel the agreement. I read the agreement more carefully, especially the termination clause, and decided to cancel it. Now reading articles and forums, I think I made a good decision. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When a National Home Services representative rang at my door, I first thought it was a good idea to replace my water heater with a brand new one. After all, it was old, a rental anyway, and, last year, when it broke, DirectEnergy had replaced the old one with an used one. So I signed an agreement, and the salesman made me take an appointment for two days after. The following day, I started having doubts about the sales practice of the company. The representative was fine, but pushy, and he hadn&#039;t exactly told me about all the terms of what I was signing up for. I questioned the fact that they were in such a hurry to install the water heater when I had 10 days to cancel the agreement. I read the agreement more carefully, especially the termination clause, and decided to cancel it. Now reading articles and forums, I think I made a good decision. </p>
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		By: justburned		</title>
		<link>https://www.keyframe5.com/another-visit-from-national-home-services/#comment-10744</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.keyframe5.com/another-visit-from-national-home-services/#comment-10743&quot;&gt;Audra&lt;/a&gt;.

I think you hit the nail on the head, scam and thats what NHS is. I&#039;m sure their very careful about what they say now because NHS is at the forefront now and their being watched. My issue is not with the water heater, its with the company itself. Their was no mention of their parent company when they came to my door. Why would they affiliate themselves with JE, i&#039;ll spare you my answer, its self explanatory and while im on the JE bandwagon, just how many charges have been laid against them in the US and Canada in the last 5 years. JE is the biggest scam going, having said that DE and Reliance perhaps are not much better. However, if NHS had come to the door and stipulated and fully disclosed some major points i.e long term contract, high exit fees etc etc. who would sign up, not to many people. There&#039;s no mention you have 10 days to cancel. The truth is NHS will more than make their money back with these long term contracts plus you&#039;re paying 3-4 dollars more. They speak of free maintenance, and other preventative maintenance, free installation, 2 months free blah blah blah but its not free, you end up paying for it all with this contract. Why do they install the same day, is that part of their great customer service, why do they reaffirm the same day. There is many a case out of their of them installing the water heaters during the 10 day period. Why does NHS not wait for this period to clear? Why does NHS not call you at the 10 day mark and ask you then if you want the water heater? The truth is NHS would rather risk installing the tanks, i believe they said the cost of doing business, were their words. Why wont they respond via email and in written form. You even have you&#039;re own people coming on here saying NHS is a sham. Water heater rentals are on the top 10 list in 2010, and who heads up that list. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.keyframe5.com/another-visit-from-national-home-services/#comment-10743">Audra</a>.</p>
<p>I think you hit the nail on the head, scam and thats what NHS is. I&#039;m sure their very careful about what they say now because NHS is at the forefront now and their being watched. My issue is not with the water heater, its with the company itself. Their was no mention of their parent company when they came to my door. Why would they affiliate themselves with JE, i&#039;ll spare you my answer, its self explanatory and while im on the JE bandwagon, just how many charges have been laid against them in the US and Canada in the last 5 years. JE is the biggest scam going, having said that DE and Reliance perhaps are not much better. However, if NHS had come to the door and stipulated and fully disclosed some major points i.e long term contract, high exit fees etc etc. who would sign up, not to many people. There&#039;s no mention you have 10 days to cancel. The truth is NHS will more than make their money back with these long term contracts plus you&#039;re paying 3-4 dollars more. They speak of free maintenance, and other preventative maintenance, free installation, 2 months free blah blah blah but its not free, you end up paying for it all with this contract. Why do they install the same day, is that part of their great customer service, why do they reaffirm the same day. There is many a case out of their of them installing the water heaters during the 10 day period. Why does NHS not wait for this period to clear? Why does NHS not call you at the 10 day mark and ask you then if you want the water heater? The truth is NHS would rather risk installing the tanks, i believe they said the cost of doing business, were their words. Why wont they respond via email and in written form. You even have you&#039;re own people coming on here saying NHS is a sham. Water heater rentals are on the top 10 list in 2010, and who heads up that list. </p>
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		By: Audra		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ok... i work for this company and honestly, you get way to mad when someone scams you. i sit in a room every morning and listen to my leader tell us to be 100% honest at all times... its not the company who makes people lie its those people desperate to make money who lie on there own, i have this water heater and everyone in my family goes through them because there a good canadian company, sure its part of just but the  money is circulated into the economy....so give it up..you need to stop spending so much time on the computer and get a job. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok&#8230; i work for this company and honestly, you get way to mad when someone scams you. i sit in a room every morning and listen to my leader tell us to be 100% honest at all times&#8230; its not the company who makes people lie its those people desperate to make money who lie on there own, i have this water heater and everyone in my family goes through them because there a good canadian company, sure its part of just but the  money is circulated into the economy&#8230;.so give it up..you need to stop spending so much time on the computer and get a job. </p>
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		By: KC		</title>
		<link>https://www.keyframe5.com/another-visit-from-national-home-services/#comment-10328</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2010 16:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.keyframe5.com/another-visit-from-national-home-services/#comment-10327&quot;&gt;Mike&lt;/a&gt;.

Can you really blame someone for being skeptical of such an outrageous claim? 
 
Look, in all seriousness, I am truly sorry if this actually happened to you.  But based on what you have said, I find it too far fetched with several holes in your story.  Just how I see it... 
 
*IF* everything is accurate, then don&#039;t let a critic like myself discourage you from seeking legal action or calling media attention to the matter.  
 
Anyway, moving on. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.keyframe5.com/another-visit-from-national-home-services/#comment-10327">Mike</a>.</p>
<p>Can you really blame someone for being skeptical of such an outrageous claim?</p>
<p>Look, in all seriousness, I am truly sorry if this actually happened to you.  But based on what you have said, I find it too far fetched with several holes in your story.  Just how I see it&#8230;</p>
<p>*IF* everything is accurate, then don&#039;t let a critic like myself discourage you from seeking legal action or calling media attention to the matter. </p>
<p>Anyway, moving on. </p>
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		By: Mike		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2010 15:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have always questioned why victims are afraid to go to the police.  now I know why. and after this experience with you I am sure I won&#039;t take it to the media.  I don&#039;t need every know-it-all cynic doubting me and making me feel worse than I already do. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always questioned why victims are afraid to go to the police.  now I know why. and after this experience with you I am sure I won&#039;t take it to the media.  I don&#039;t need every know-it-all cynic doubting me and making me feel worse than I already do. </p>
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		By: KC		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2010 09:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.keyframe5.com/another-visit-from-national-home-services/#comment-10324&quot;&gt;Mike&lt;/a&gt;.

Still don&#039;t buy it.    
 
It&#039;s taken you three posts to explain yourself, poorly I might add.  Should have been done in one. 
 
You said there were no witnesses, when in fact there were.  
 
You said your neighbor saw something but you&#039;re not sure how much.  I trust that given this happened over a week ago then you must have spoken to your neighbor since the incident to find out what they saw.   
 
Nothing in your original post suggested more than one salesperson.  Simply saying a salesman was at your door and that you said you were smarter than them, to me, only suggests one person.  Your description was extremely weak. 
 
Okay, perhaps I misinterpreted what you said about your daughter but your wording suggested physical damage.  After all, you mentioned damage to your hinges (physical damage) and then immediately after damage to your daughter.  Given that you worded both lines essentially the same I didn&#039;t find it clear enough to know we were jumping from physical damage to psychological. 
 
Regardless, considering that your daughter was involved (physically or psychologically) that should have been something you mentioned in your original post.  If this incident did in fact happen, which I still believe it didn&#039;t, then parents reading your post never would have known that their children may be in jeopardy should they answer the door to a salesperson.  Good thing I questioned your story, otherwise the internet never would have known! 
 
Curious about something, you said the police eventually arrived but wouldn&#039;t charge the guy.  Was the guy still there when the cop showed up?  Was he still beating you at the time?  If the cop saw this, then they would have been another witness (that would make four witnesses now).  Or, did the guy stop beating you and just stood around waiting for the police to show?   
 
You got the guys name, did he have an ID number or badge number?  If the guy didn&#039;t give it to you then I&#039;m sure the female salesperson would have. I trust you have reported this incident to the company.  You have done this, right?  I also trust you would have also reported this to the media as it would make the company in question and the police look bad.   
 
I still find it hard to believe that the cop would have done nothing considering your injuries and the damage done to the house.   
 
Regarding those pictures you mentioned.  I don&#039;t need to see them (mostly because I don&#039;t believe they exist) though I&#039;m sure the police would like to see them, as well as the company.  You have showed them these pictures, right?   
 
Look, I may have misinterpreted some of what you said but that is likely because your explanations have been so weak.  It makes me question the legitimacy of virtually every other comment I see on this page.  How many facts and details are being left out or altered to suit your needs? 
 
In conclusion, and I mean that because I&#039;m tired of responding to your posts, I don&#039;t buy anything you&#039;ve said for a second.  Your &#034;facts&#034; just don&#039;t add up and your explanations have been poor, at best. 
 
Thanks for the story though, it was still entertaining.  Perhaps Hollywood could buy it from you. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.keyframe5.com/another-visit-from-national-home-services/#comment-10324">Mike</a>.</p>
<p>Still don&#039;t buy it.   </p>
<p>It&#039;s taken you three posts to explain yourself, poorly I might add.  Should have been done in one.</p>
<p>You said there were no witnesses, when in fact there were. </p>
<p>You said your neighbor saw something but you&#039;re not sure how much.  I trust that given this happened over a week ago then you must have spoken to your neighbor since the incident to find out what they saw.  </p>
<p>Nothing in your original post suggested more than one salesperson.  Simply saying a salesman was at your door and that you said you were smarter than them, to me, only suggests one person.  Your description was extremely weak.</p>
<p>Okay, perhaps I misinterpreted what you said about your daughter but your wording suggested physical damage.  After all, you mentioned damage to your hinges (physical damage) and then immediately after damage to your daughter.  Given that you worded both lines essentially the same I didn&#039;t find it clear enough to know we were jumping from physical damage to psychological.</p>
<p>Regardless, considering that your daughter was involved (physically or psychologically) that should have been something you mentioned in your original post.  If this incident did in fact happen, which I still believe it didn&#039;t, then parents reading your post never would have known that their children may be in jeopardy should they answer the door to a salesperson.  Good thing I questioned your story, otherwise the internet never would have known!</p>
<p>Curious about something, you said the police eventually arrived but wouldn&#039;t charge the guy.  Was the guy still there when the cop showed up?  Was he still beating you at the time?  If the cop saw this, then they would have been another witness (that would make four witnesses now).  Or, did the guy stop beating you and just stood around waiting for the police to show?  </p>
<p>You got the guys name, did he have an ID number or badge number?  If the guy didn&#039;t give it to you then I&#039;m sure the female salesperson would have. I trust you have reported this incident to the company.  You have done this, right?  I also trust you would have also reported this to the media as it would make the company in question and the police look bad.  </p>
<p>I still find it hard to believe that the cop would have done nothing considering your injuries and the damage done to the house.  </p>
<p>Regarding those pictures you mentioned.  I don&#039;t need to see them (mostly because I don&#039;t believe they exist) though I&#039;m sure the police would like to see them, as well as the company.  You have showed them these pictures, right?  </p>
<p>Look, I may have misinterpreted some of what you said but that is likely because your explanations have been so weak.  It makes me question the legitimacy of virtually every other comment I see on this page.  How many facts and details are being left out or altered to suit your needs?</p>
<p>In conclusion, and I mean that because I&#039;m tired of responding to your posts, I don&#039;t buy anything you&#039;ve said for a second.  Your &quot;facts&quot; just don&#039;t add up and your explanations have been poor, at best.</p>
<p>Thanks for the story though, it was still entertaining.  Perhaps Hollywood could buy it from you. </p>
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		By: Mike		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 20:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You need to read more accurately. 
In my first post I said &#034;they &#038; them&#034; clearly indicating more than one person and I said &#034;then the guy named Habib forced my door open&#034; which would suggest the other was a female. 
Also, I mentioned my daughter in the second post in response to your rebuttal because it seemed you were wanting more details. 
and most importantly I NEVER SAID my daughter was beaten!!!!! 
it there in black &#038; white.....I said &#034;and there is still damage to my 7 year old daughter who just got in bed and HEARD HER FATHER BEING ATTACKED&#034; meaning psychological damage. 
maybe you should get a job as a cop...your translation of the facts seems to equal that of the cops I just dealt with. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need to read more accurately.</p>
<p>In my first post I said &quot;they &amp; them&quot; clearly indicating more than one person and I said &quot;then the guy named Habib forced my door open&quot; which would suggest the other was a female.</p>
<p>Also, I mentioned my daughter in the second post in response to your rebuttal because it seemed you were wanting more details.</p>
<p>and most importantly I NEVER SAID my daughter was beaten!!!!!</p>
<p>it there in black &amp; white&#8230;..I said &quot;and there is still damage to my 7 year old daughter who just got in bed and HEARD HER FATHER BEING ATTACKED&quot; meaning psychological damage.</p>
<p>maybe you should get a job as a cop&#8230;your translation of the facts seems to equal that of the cops I just dealt with. </p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 18:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.keyframe5.com/another-visit-from-national-home-services/#comment-10322&quot;&gt;Mike&lt;/a&gt;.

So there were three other people present but none of them count as witnesses.  
 
There was a 911 call made as the attack was happening. This call likely would have been recorded and therefore quite possibly picked up sounds of the attack happening in the background considering how ferocious an loud you claim it was.  
 
The cop saw that you had been beaten and that there was damage to your home and yet still did nothing.  
 
What&#039;s even more shocking is that now you&#039;re saying your daughter was also beaten and yet the cop STILL did nothing? 
 
Curious about why you didn&#039;t mention your daughter in your initial comment. If either of my children had been beaten in front of me I would have raised absolute hell. And considering that their life and safety is far more important than my own I would have definitely pressed charges to the fullest extent of the law against both the employee who did this AND the cop for not doing anything about it. At the very least I would have mentioned that my child had been attacked in a complaint I make online. Who cares about my safety when my kids are involved. Yet you didn&#039;t mention anything about your daughter in your initial post at all.   
 
Similarly, you also didn&#039;t mention anything about there being a second employee present either.  
 
Sorry, once again, but your explanation leaves even more holes in your story. The smell of BS is almost unbearable. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.keyframe5.com/another-visit-from-national-home-services/#comment-10322">Mike</a>.</p>
<p>So there were three other people present but none of them count as witnesses. </p>
<p>There was a 911 call made as the attack was happening. This call likely would have been recorded and therefore quite possibly picked up sounds of the attack happening in the background considering how ferocious an loud you claim it was. </p>
<p>The cop saw that you had been beaten and that there was damage to your home and yet still did nothing. </p>
<p>What&#039;s even more shocking is that now you&#039;re saying your daughter was also beaten and yet the cop STILL did nothing?</p>
<p>Curious about why you didn&#039;t mention your daughter in your initial comment. If either of my children had been beaten in front of me I would have raised absolute hell. And considering that their life and safety is far more important than my own I would have definitely pressed charges to the fullest extent of the law against both the employee who did this AND the cop for not doing anything about it. At the very least I would have mentioned that my child had been attacked in a complaint I make online. Who cares about my safety when my kids are involved. Yet you didn&#039;t mention anything about your daughter in your initial post at all.  </p>
<p>Similarly, you also didn&#039;t mention anything about there being a second employee present either. </p>
<p>Sorry, once again, but your explanation leaves even more holes in your story. The smell of BS is almost unbearable. </p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 18:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[the female salesperson was the first to dial 911.  Then when I started yelling for help, a  heard and dialed 911.  I know my neighbour saw some but I don&#039;t know how much.  I have photos of my physical injuries but I am not about to post them on the internet.  the cop saw the blood all over my face and saw that I was still spitting up blood from my front tooth piercing my lip.  there is still blood on my porch and there is still damage to the hinges on my front door.  and there is still damage to my 7 year old daughter who just got in bed and heard her father being attacked and yelling for help after the doorbell rang. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the female salesperson was the first to dial 911.  Then when I started yelling for help, a  heard and dialed 911.  I know my neighbour saw some but I don&#039;t know how much.  I have photos of my physical injuries but I am not about to post them on the internet.  the cop saw the blood all over my face and saw that I was still spitting up blood from my front tooth piercing my lip.  there is still blood on my porch and there is still damage to the hinges on my front door.  and there is still damage to my 7 year old daughter who just got in bed and heard her father being attacked and yelling for help after the doorbell rang. </p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 15:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.keyframe5.com/another-visit-from-national-home-services/#comment-10317&quot;&gt;Mike&lt;/a&gt;.

Yeah, right.... 
 
1) If you had no witnesses, who called the police? 
 
2) If you were being punched, kicked, and knocked to the floor wouldn&#039;t your body have showed signs of physical abuse? 
 
3) Speaking of signs, wouldn&#039;t it have been obvious for the police to see signs of such a struggle in your house? 
 
Sorry, but your claim seems to reek of BS. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.keyframe5.com/another-visit-from-national-home-services/#comment-10317">Mike</a>.</p>
<p>Yeah, right&#8230;.</p>
<p>1) If you had no witnesses, who called the police?</p>
<p>2) If you were being punched, kicked, and knocked to the floor wouldn&#039;t your body have showed signs of physical abuse?</p>
<p>3) Speaking of signs, wouldn&#039;t it have been obvious for the police to see signs of such a struggle in your house?</p>
<p>Sorry, but your claim seems to reek of BS. </p>
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